The mighty Kapellen

Paisley in disguise · 02-04-2008, 02:00 PM

Leagues loaded: Belgium, England, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Scotland, Spain, Sweden.

Season 1
Decided to take myself to the lower leagues of Belgium and to the mighty Kapellen.

Media prediction: 7th
Board prediction: Respectable league position
Club value : 325k
Bank balance : -45k
Wage budget : 1.5k
Transfer budget : 3k
Players in : 20
Players out : 24
Season tickets : 280
Av. attendance : 1125

Belgium Division 3
P28 W17 D6 L5 F50 A29 PTS57 Pos. 1st of 15

Belgium Cup
6th Round 0-3 v Westerlo

*Arranged a couple of high profile friendlies to increase finances.
*Had wages running at 4.5k during season which upset the board.
*Went mad at start of season wheeling and dealing, got rid of all the dead wood.
*Board announced stadium expansion of 1000 seats.

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Season 2

Media prediction: 15th
Board prediction: Avoid relegation
Club value : 375k
Bank balance : -102k
Wage budget : 10k
Transfer budget : 0k
Players in : 16
Players out : 6
Season tickets : 1467
Av. attendance : 1731

Belgium Division 2
P34 W10 D6 L18 F38 A53 PTS36 Pos. 14th of 18

Belgium Cup
6th Round 0-4 v Westerlo(again!!)

*Board announced link with Heerenveen, to this day hav never had 1 player on loan from them but the 38.5k a season comes in handy.
*Offered new 2 year contract.
*Toiled with relegation most of season, won both last 2 games of season to stay up.

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Season 3

Media prediction: 16th
Board prediction: Avoid relegation
Club value : 500k
Bank balance : -180k
Wage budget : 9k
Transfer budget : 0k
Players in : 14
Players out : 29
Season tickets : 1304
Av. Attendance : 3956

Belgium Division 2
P34 W17 D7 L10 F53 A46 PTS58 Pos. 5th of 18
Finished 5th and went into the promotion play-off. Finished 3rd of 4.

Belgium Cup
6th Round 1-3 v FC Brussels

*Stadium expanded by 1000 seats.
*Started season -180k so arranged another couple of high profile friendlies to increase finances. ( Don't think this is cheating as clubs do it in real life, as long as you put a limit on the amount you do. I ever only do 3)

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Season 4

Media prediction: 7th
Board prediction: Mid table finish
Club value : 650k
Bank balance : +22k
Wage budget : 10k
Transfer budget : 0k
Players in : 3
Players out : 15
Season tickets : 1675
Av. Attendance : 4309

Belgium Division 2
P34 W18 D2 L14 F51 A36 PTS56 Pos. 7th of 18

Belgium Cup
Quarter final 1-5(agg) v FC Brussels(again!!)

*Offered new 2 year contract.
*Stadium expanded by 1000 seats.

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skershaw · 02-04-2008, 02:29 PM

Well done, KUTGW.

Although one slight point is, how realistic is it for a manager in his first season to spend 3 times more money per week on their wage budget than allowed?

I know it's not your fault, it is your boards fault, but I don't think the board would allow this in real life?

Gumble over, and good luck next year.

mkus · 02-04-2008, 02:34 PM

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arranged another couple of high profile friendlies to increase finances. ( Don't think this is cheating as clubs do it in real life, as long as you put a limit on the amount you do. I ever only do 3)

But how many do they do? No idea for Belgium, but this year Weston-super-Mare (Blue Square South) played Plymouth, Bristol City and a Bristol Rovers XI at home. All league clubs, but all local (-ish in Plymouth's case). So it's not just about numbers, but where the teams are from.

iajafer · 02-04-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by skershaw:
Although one slight point is, how realistic is it for a manager in his first season to spend 3 times more money per week on their wage budget than allowed?

I know it's not your fault, it is your boards fault, but I don't think the board would allow this in real life?

I'm a great believer in the LLM adage "If the board are stupid enough to let me spend their money then spent it will be".

As soon as they decide to let me decide when to upgrade the stadium, the youth facilities and the training facilities without asking them then the sooner I'll bother about wage budgets.

Financial matters are now part of the "Confidence" section.

If they don't like it they can (and have) sack(ed) me.

Craig0 · 02-04-2008, 03:07 PM

Your bank balance went from -180k to +22k. Was this all from revenue generated from friendlies? If so then I wouldn't be too happy with this being realistic. I can't see many small clubs making 1/4 of a million just from friendlies.

KUTGW!!

skershaw · 02-04-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by iajafer:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by skershaw:
Although one slight point is, how realistic is it for a manager in his first season to spend 3 times more money per week on their wage budget than allowed?

I know it's not your fault, it is your boards fault, but I don't think the board would allow this in real life?

I'm a great believer in the LLM adage "If the board are stupid enough to let me spend their money then spent it will be".

As soon as they decide to let me decide when to upgrade the stadium, the youth facilities and the training facilities without asking them then the sooner I'll bother about wage budgets.

Financial matters are now part of the "Confidence" section.

If they don't like it they can (and have) sack(ed) me. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I know what you are saying iajafer, I just think as soon as you went above your wage budget in real life, your board would simply block any further transfer activity.

I think it is a small bug that SI should really sort out, as I think it's unrealistic, go over by a few quid is fine, but treble the wage budget???? come on!!!

iajafer · 02-04-2008, 04:35 PM

Trebling the budget's subjective and can mean a huge difference in actual spending.

If your weekly budget's £4k then trebling it makes it £12k.

A huge difference, I'm sure you'll agree, from if your weekly allowance is £12k and it trebles to £36k.

Differences of £8k and £24k.

Now...add a zero to those figures :eek:

mkus · 02-04-2008, 04:45 PM

Have to disagree, skershaw.

The board tell me what I can offer each player in wages. Twice this season I've sacrificed transfer budget to increase my wage budget. If they still let me offer a player a couple of grand a week when I'm over budget, that's up to the board.

That's only for good players though. Anyone average and I'm severely restricted in terms of what I can offer them.

skershaw · 02-04-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by iajafer:
Trebling the budget's subjective and can mean a huge difference in actual spending.

If your weekly budget's £4k then trebling it makes it £12k.

A huge difference, I'm sure you'll agree, from if your weekly allowance is £12k and it trebles to £36k.

Differences of £8k and £24k.

Now...add a zero to those figures :eek:

All budgets are subjective, but I used it in reference to what this guy had said he'd done.
A 1.5k wage budget, trebled to 4.5k per week.
Now we are talking about Lower League Management, and if your wage budget is 1.5k then your board will have budgeted that this is the maximum they could afford to spend. If you treble it, you are putting your club at risk of falling into financial ruin. On this basis, Paisley in disguise's team of Kapellen would have to somehow find an extra 150k over the year to cover it.

That is why I think this is coded wrong on FM.

If you take it subjectively and relate what has happened here to say Man Utd.
I don't know what Man Utd's weekly wage budget is on FM, but say it's 1.5 million, to do to Man Utd what this guy has done to Kapellen would mean that Man Utd's weekly wage budget would increase by 3 million per week to 4.5m?

Realistic? No.

skershaw · 02-04-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by mkus:
Have to disagree, skershaw.

The board tell me what I can offer each player in wages. Twice this season I've sacrificed transfer budget to increase my wage budget. If they still let me offer a player a couple of grand a week when I'm over budget, that's up to the board.

That's only for good players though. Anyone average and I'm severely restricted in terms of what I can offer them.

I agree mkus, if your board are stupid enough to let you go over your wage budget, then it's upto you whether you do or no.
Like I said before, it's not your fault, the fault lies at the board.

My point is that I don't think a board at the level we are talking about in LLM would allow this to happen.

But your point was that you offered a couple of grand to a player when already over budget? I bet that your wage budget was alot larger than 1.5k, and I bet you came nowhere near trebling it?