Masquerade

well I got promoted. Some of my loanees agreed to stay on for another season but most went.

My Parent Club is Fulham. I wasn't aware the AI was incapable of making a realistic decision on whether they should or shouldn't be a parent club to another.

Yet to come up against a loan limit but I'm sure it's there somewhere, as you say. It's not that I find the approach unenjoyable as such, I was just surprised at how simple it was to grab so many players of such high quality for no cost whatsoever to the club

Masquerade

Right, so it's a limit of 4 below 23 and another 4 above the age of 23 on long term loans - that still allows for the potential of 8/11 of my first team side to belong and be payed elsewhere. Whatever happens with regard to the loans I get this season they'll provide a nice, cost free buffer until I can actually sign some people

KDR

Don't know for sure, but I would guess there are a lot of reserve/youth players sent out to BSP/BSS/BSN sides. You may be allowed 8/11 to be loanees, but that's over the course of the season and I was under the impression there was a limit on the number of long-term loanees you could have (i.e. 4 long and 4 short).

As for the situation being 'incredible' that people will go to BS teams on loan but not League 2 on permanent deals...I don't think it's that incredible at all. A loan is temporary, so player X knows he will get experience, probably not find it that hard, and will go back to a better club. By the same token, he also knows that by transferring to League 2, he will probably never see the Prem or Championship again, unless he gets there with a League 2 team that gets promoted to that level (eventually).
Looking at the situation IRL, foreign competition, high (unrealistically so) fees and lack of experience at a certain level usually means the only mobility for players these days is downward. If Stuart Pearce and Chris Waddle were starting out today, with Wealdstone and Tow Law Town, they'd get nowhere near the league, let alone the top flight and England squad.
For this reason, both IRL and in FM, players will be happy to go down divisions on loan, but not permanently.

Nathozz

I only ever normally got 3 loanees whenever I am a small club.

Normally a defender and sometimes 2 strikers.

Reminds me of my Kings Lynn game a certain somebody from Norwich was immense for me. Sored over 88 goals in like 107 appearances. Managed to get him on loan in 1st and 2nd season but then he rejected me and moved to a higher club on a permanant deal.

Nathozz

My spelling was terrible in the above post. Sorry.

chopper99

This isn't true. You can pretty much loan as many players in as you want but you'll only be able to have a maximum of 5 of them in your squad for a match day (including subs). So you'll never have 8 of your first 11 being loanees, at most it'll be 5.

Masquerade

very true, just spotted this myself. However, there is a limit to 8 long term loanees in the squad itself (4 each above and below the age of 23) in the BSP according to my FM game.

Masquerade

*sigh* seems winning the playoffs final was a rahs decision. I should have purposely fielded the players my club actually owns. Things aren't going so well and another season in the BSS with no loan limits and gathering more funds seems now to have been the better path to take

Amaroq

LoL @ your title. Just the other day, I said

( 1st time at LLM - Any advice?)

Old Git

Have just secured 1st Div status for AFC Telford, 2011. My first attempt at a BSS/BSN challenge and first season managed to get 8 loanees, 3 from Wolves (parent club) and 5 others from Championship/1st Div clubs. Took me two season to gain promotion! 2nd season only took three on loan, but two of the previous loans came to me on frees. Changed my parent club for BSP, got Villa, whom I got 5 from and gained auto promotion. League 2 saw me start to pick up loanees from the bigger clubs, and frees from the top flight, and again in this season I've picked up some from my parent and from Man Utd.

Getting same players back for a second season is tricky but do-able, but almost certainly agree, at lower rep clubs, loanees are the way ahead. I actually bought players this season, and in 4 years have spent 140k, whilst pulling in 600k, and now have 3m in bank. Spending that though is another matter, since the clubs rep remains low!