theboydonegood

This has been happening for ages now and has been particularly bad in FM2008.

Being asked to pay £40 million for CArlos Vela by Arsenal, whilst at the same time they arent prepared to pay more than £20 million for robinho seems a tad unfair imo

DJdeMarco

Not unfair at all.

It is your choice to bid higher than the value as it is their choice not to bid higher.

The simple solution is move on to the next target.

theboydonegood

explain how it is unfair when this happens with 9/10 players you bid for, yet the AI wont bid much more than the value??? it means I have to pay over the odds whilst the AI buy players cheap.

I have offered 5/6 times more than value for a player and had a bid rejected, next minute another AI team has bid marginally more than asking price nad had the bid accepted

Its unfair, i am being constructive here, DJ, if you simply an apologist for what is quite clearly an issue then kindly refrain from posting any further in this thread. cheers

DodgeeD

There are other factors to consider too. If you are bidding for a player from a rival club or a club in the same league they may demand more money.

I also tried to buy Vela and Arsenal refused a 25mil bid from me (Blackburn). We are not listed as rivals but the news item said the bid was refused due to our 'league rivalry' as we had both challenged for the title the previous year. They then accepted a Real Madrid bid of 15 mil. It must be as they are not in the same league.

You also need to be careful about post/pre match comments and your general relationship with a manager as this affects the likelyhood of a bid being accepted.

On the other side, I had a good relationship with Avram Grant which enabled me to pick up Mancienne and Woods quite cheaply (similar offers from Spurs and Man U were refused). I also got scouting knowledge of Israel and picked up some players there so it works both ways

Liamoville

You've got to remember .... say if the computer bids for a player and it is accepted. The computer will always accept your offer of that price to.

And on a few of my games, Arsenal have paid 41m for Vicente (first season), 25mil for Joaquin (first season) and 23m for Mutu (first season) ... all differernt games of course but still .... It's only ever very average players where the computer won't bid higher than the asking price.

DJdeMarco

I was responding to your first post in this thread which didn't mention the whole issue (being that the AI offers less for the same player and the offer gets accepted).

Your first post is complaining that the AI will only pay less for a completely different player. Had you chosen to state your point correctly, my response would have been different.

There are many reasons a bid would be rejected (including relationships between managers/teams and the way the money is offered). As you haven't given any detail of the problem, it is difficult to say whether or not your particluar issue is the game or you.

I agree that there is an issue with the lack of any real negotiation and with the AI knowing exactly how to offer the money to get a player for less than the human player.

As for your attempt at putting forth a valid argument by suggesting I am an apologist and should refrain from posting in this thread, grow up.

If you would state your case in a complete fashion rather than giving minor details which aren't even close to the actual point you are trying to make then you would find that, for the most part, I agree with you that there is a problem in the way this works.

grahamf

Another thing that can make a big difference is setting a deadline. If you demand a quick response teams often seem to get wound up and want more money.

bod1035

I have seen many times the ai teams having to pay 2-3 times what the player is valued at, there are mant factors involed in bids being accepted.

Jibby123

You're lucky mate, at Barcelona I've just lost Messi to Roma for £56 million, when Roma (AI) smacked a bid in and the Chairman accepted on my behalf (cheeky sod!!). I was gutted!

So the AI definitely will bid over the value price (can't remember what Messi was worth but not even half the £56 mil). I didn't need the money, but DID need Messi.

megafan2005

not ture actually real madrid in my QPR game payed £53M for Montolivio and then £58M on Karim Benzema