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Old 05-13-2008, 11:49 PM   #1
 
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Default What consitutes a "super tactic"????

Hello everyone

Im sitting here wondering how to go about my side in my second season in charge and wondering what kind of formation to play, when I started thinking...

....what is the LLM view on formation setups???

Now, if you look at other sides tactics screens etc, those that are playing {default tactic} (for example) all do so in the same way with wingers pushing forward or what have you. Does that mean that if I decide that this season my left winger will make runs into the centre of the pitch and set the running arrow accordingly, I am then getting into the realm of trying to create a super tactic???

What im getting at is whether other LLaMas adhere to the conventions of other teams, or whether it doesnt matter if they play a silly kind of {Silly tactic} formation if its done in the LLM way.

By the way, im not someone who ventures onto the other forums here, and nor am i aware of what a super tactic would be even if i had discovered it. I just feel a bit uneasy with a completely different looking formation to the rest of the game, and feel that it might not be playing in the right spirit.

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The tactic to follow is called "read the header" We llamas tend to love this tactic...
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"What consitutes a "Super Tactic"????

Not the tactic i use!
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Put simply: play how you want. If you want to apply for the River Plate job, go for it. If you want to train your players into the ground, or conversely buy them all armchairs and plasmas, that's your choice. And if you want to play with two attacking Goalkeepers and 14 strikers on the pitch, then you're welcome to do it.

The ref will be unhappy that there are 16 players on the pitch, buy it is your choice...
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Also, be aware that naming any tactic in here - regardless of whether you are actually asking for a discussion involving the details of others and your own formations and tactics, or just asking about how 'free' a LLaMa should be about changing and experimenting - will almost always result in misunderstanding, as most LLaMas are very nervous and suspicious about anything from that realm.
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To answer the question in the header (and not much else) I would consider a super-tactic to be any designed to explicitly exploit a flaw in the AI.
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To answer the question in the header (and not much else) I would consider a super-tactic to be any designed to explicitly exploit a flaw in the AI.

I have always wondered at that, I may not be very observant but I have not noticed many flaws in the current version of FM.

If I develop a tactic by trial and error and it works, I am extremely pleased. If someone later tells me I have inadvertly stumbled across a 'Supertactic', then tough. I found it, I keep it. I don't go around sharing it but I cherish it. (It happened once on CM01-02)

I must admit though, in the last few incarnations of this game, it has been all I can do to get a winning run of 2 or 3 games together.
I have just about given up on messing about with tactics and generally play one of the standard tactics with a few slider changes.
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Perhaps I should elaborate even further.

Your own formation and tactics, no matter how silly = your choice.

A "supertactic", something that takes advantage of a bug or game flaw, and hence would not work in a 'real' game of football, for example a certain sweeper bug in one of the archaic incarnations of FM = No-no.

I'm sure you were meaning to ask about the former rather than the latter though.
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If I develop a tactic by trial and error and it works, I am extremely pleased. If someone later tells me I have inadvertly stumbled across a 'Supertactic', then tough. I found it, I keep it. I don't go around sharing it but I cherish it. (It happened once on CM01-02)
Couldn't agree more. I'm sure if you tarnished your mind by reading around the tactics forum then any flaws would be pointed out and you could build a tactic to exploit them. Finding a supertactic by accident is something else entirely.

Ignorance really is bliss.
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asking about how 'free' a LLaMa should be about changing and experimenting - will almost always result in misunderstanding, as most LLaMas are very nervous and suspicious about anything from that realm.
Exactly - Im worry over my attempts to set my field incase I break any guidelines - which is why I asked in the first place.

Even though my forum status says 'Amateur' I can assure you Im not an LLM amateur and saying "why dont you read the header?" isnt at all helpful when I took time to try and ask a valid question and maybe get a decent discussion going.

Im not looking for insights into what tactics people use. If I wanted that I wouldnt ask here. What i asked is whether its LLM to place players here there and everywhere when no other teams in the game place those players there - and consequently would doing so constitute an attempt on your part to exploit a flaw in the AI - whether you are doing so knowingly or not.

Apart from this one, the last three posts begin to answer what I asked - so thanks you three.
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